DeletedUser2549
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since you would only discussion one for the other thread, what is consider mass mailing?
this is actually what i was made to believe in the past it was done. which is why im asking my question here. glad to know other think the same way. that add back glitches is annoying and should be fix 100 Percent before reporting players as well. even know i do know some players that do add people back for the kicks. which i can understand that players point of view.Ok...
Multiple players are sent a pm.
One player isn't happy about being there.
This player can choose to a. Speak up and let the message creator know that they are leaving (or ask to be removed if on mobile) or b. Leave without saying a word. Choosing option b makes it hard for anyone to know that the player prefers not to be in messages. It also leaves the message creator and participants vulnerable to the game glitch. You know, the one where players get out back into messages they've left or been removed from... Randomly. Btw, that's rather frustrating and should be looked into.
And since we're talking harassment... Unless there is some form of duress (like your boss or some authority figure is doing the harassing) it should be expected for the "injured party" to state their displeasure. Even in legal issues, you must be informed that the attention/action is unwanted before it becomes true harassment. Again, informed unless the person making contact could be considered to have power in the situation.
Example: I receive messages regularly here in Tw2 land. Many are from folks I am not currently associated with. None of these are harassment, even tho a few are less than friendly. But, I did get a message from someone that went a lil far. I Informed the player that I did not appreciate his views or language, and would prefer that he not contact me further. If he had continued to message beyond acknowledging my request, it would then be considered harassment. Luckily for him, he did not.
Just my 2 cents... I'm not a mod or anything. Just a logical being with half a brain
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And since we're talking harassment... Unless there is some form of duress (like your boss or some authority figure is doing the harassing) it should be expected for the "injured party" to state their displeasure. Even in legal issues, you must be informed that the attention/action is unwanted before it becomes true harassment. Again, informed unless the person making contact could be considered to have power in the situation.
Example: I receive messages regularly here in Tw2 land. Many are from folks I am not currently associated with. None of these are harassment, even tho a few are less than friendly. But, I did get a message from someone that went a lil far. I Informed the player that I did not appreciate his views or language, and would prefer that he not contact me further. If he had continued to message beyond acknowledging my request, it would then be considered harassment. Luckily for him, he did not.
Just my 2 cents... I'm not a mod or anything. Just a logical being with half a brain
Agaian this is how it was done in the past. so now im confuse ^^ it seems lke another know what this was like as wellIf you can't see how your warning system is going to open a gigantic can of worms, you might need to take a step back and look again. If a player isn't capable of simply stating their preference to not be contacted, there's always the option of the mod team doing so for them. But to call this a warning is offensive (at best... I'm really really trying to be polite about this, can ya tell?). Change what you call it, maybe?
The term warning indicates that a rule was broken. However, as the player has no way of knowing that they're engaging in harassment (see why there needs to be an "inform action" yet?), then they're not actually breaking a rule. You can't harass unaware. Sending a message is not harassment. Participating in a message you're added to is also not harassment. It Only becomes harassment if you do so knowing that it is unwanted, do so from a position of power, or do so in an obviously over the top fashion (like multiple mails in a short period of time, or using inappropriate language or comments that are against rules).
Plus, you stayed 1st time offenders... Well, what happens when player a has already been "warned" while the evidence clearly shows that player b chose to use the mod team as their inform action? Think about it. Player b is causing the mod tea to become their personal harassment tool... Hit that report button whenever someone messages them without their consent, and everyone involved gets a warning on their account. That's going to add up. Again, calling these warnings is offensive. Be honest and call it informing, and move on to a warning if it continues. This gives player b the ability to inform player a without having to suffer acting like an adult (still tryi g to be nice, I swear), and player a gets the ability to know the interaction was undesired without having a nasty warning flag on their account. Plus, the mod team isn't going to become a weapon. Everyone wins. Yay and stuff
I never thought I'd feel the need to point out where there are situations that warrant the "silence isn't consent" (being female, and not exactly physically intimidating... I absolutely get there are times when speaking up may be difficult, uncomfortable or simply a bad plan)...and there are situations where the complaining party is using the system to harass others. We're talking about an online game. I'm failing to see where intimidation is likely... Heck, blackmail is legit allowed in Tw2 for goodness sake. But expecting folks to say "don't message me further" is too much? Really?Agaian this is how it was done in the past. so now im confuse ^^ it seems lke another know what this was like as well
Hmm... Had you stuttered I doubt it would be in evidence via words on the screen.Did I stutter?
1) I have stated that we prefer people to take care of their own problems.
2) I also firmly state, there it is no such requirement.