Dont think I need to ask. The moderators are already here. They are reading what I have already said. Since they said “NEVER had more than one alliance or one NAP”, its easy to assume that we are already disqualified. They havent spoken much since this topic started, and at any point they could have jumped in and clarified the rules. Either saying EIJEFE’s idea is acceptable at this point or not (to modify diplomacy since we were not aware of the Forum contest when the diplomacy was made) or they could clarify how they plan to ascertain what does and does not constitute a secret alliance. And no one is throwing in the towel, Cokky. We are talking about disqualification for the “extra” coins in the contest, no one is throwing in the towel or giving up on the server or the game, or even the contest (other than the “extra” coins for having a tribe that has never made more than one alliance or NAP). And while you may not have cheated to win the world Cokky, there are players that were in your tribe that won a few servers who did admit that while they were in your tribe, and when you guys won a few worlds, it really helped them out that they were able to farm bot, as its a great advantage that your tribe’s opponents did not have. Now perhaps you may not have known your players were using them, but a few have admitted that they were readily using them at the time. If the moderators are serious about limiting that activity, we dont have to worry about farm botting being a factor for a tribe to help win a world. I miss the TW2 worlds like Forte de Sagres, where having hundreds of villages and non-stop attacks meant you have to rely a lot more on strategy to win. That was a lot of fun.