Abernon, Really? How about facts. I spoke to HB1 about joining UPC when IXI was still a tribe. Also if you want to talk bashpoints, I am in! Check how off bashpoints are made, attacking an inactive most of time produces MORE off bashpoints than active players. And as far as Jhupka, I will put up the villages I have taken against him. And let see if any of you (can't pick on Menson here, I do not know of any active player villages he has taken) can post more villages against ANY active player in the top 25 even. All the talking and Menson lives in the corner of the world achieving nothing. I respect the fact that Abernon, Yippie and gang are at least trying. Menson you have done nothing but defense as far as I have heard.