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So I have been somewhat investigating this dramatic situation, which took place on May 5th, Wendesday and have found many interesting things. The main reason that made me want to do this is that I found it so weird how on the forums Solitude was saying how Dog Soldiers betrayed them but then say the screenshots were taken straight from their private tribe chat. (Interesting, right?) Before Solitude decide to put up the screenshots on the forums, cherry and my tribe were being accused of being traitors as well but we had no idea what was going on and then Solitude absolved us but we were abandon in the dark, and we still had no idea what was going on. Then eventually I started to questioned some things like: "If KoV was honorable then why did KoV had a spy in their allies tribe in the beginning?" "Why was KoV so quick on calling everyone around them traitors?" "If the spy was some random player then why believe them over your allies?" " Why didn't they investigate like I have?" and "Why did KoV quickly took and believed in the most notorious tribe of all, We are Legion, and not believing in their allies?" These were never questioned by anyone until I decided to. I have gathered many players' stories who were involved in some way, but sadly not all did not care or want to share their side to help clear some things up.
First, let's take a look at the screenshots (The Spy's Screenshots) notice on the far-right side the scroll bar isn't all the way down, this is the beginning of the chat and not all of it and I have the entire chat thanks to helpful member (who I won't name here to protect him) and from reading from it it implies that the spy was still in the chat until he got found out and then he left. So the spy had a chance to get the most out of the chat but he didn't, these pics were doctored and then it was shown anonymously to Solitude. Now the one question that bugs me is that when Solitude saw these pics "Did he not questioned the spy?" "Did he not investigate it calmly and try to get an answer like I have?" It is unknown to me but one thing is for sure he was very quick about being hostile to everyone and stills does to this day. I have also looked at the members list and saw two whose times were close to that of the spy's. One is Nicolson but Solitude has said the member had no picture so this rules him out. The second one is AshenShugar now his time really correlates with the time this took place, the last time they were seen online was May 1st, Saturday
Now, I was doing my very best to get everyone's point of view of the situation and I was being respectful and professional about it. Like I have said not all wanted to share their story so many questions are still working theories but I did get a lot, which is better than nothing. Before I did anything I told my tribe's council what I was gonna do and then I went to ask Dogdrool's story first since Solitude was steaming at the moment.
Dogdrool claimed to be an ex-cop and knew how to get the truth out of a suspect. He says three weeks ago WaL approached Dog to join their tribe but Dogdrool didn't trust them (after all they were enemies) and he would always reject them but WaL was desperate. Also KoV apparently gave them their blessings to take them in (which I found weird) but Dogdrool still said no. A few days ago Choquell came to Dogdrool tp make a proposal but Dog said he went into cop mode and gained Choquell's trust and apparently he slipped up. Choquell said to Dogdrool when he joins Dog Soldiers he wanted to attack KoV, Dogdrool said this will never happen because KoV was very loyal and honorable to Dog Soldiers. Then Dogdrool wanted to put him to the test and told Choquell when he joins Dog Soldiers he will take out the remaining WaL members (and I saw nothing wrong there WaL were enemies of the entire world basically) but Choquell got mad and went to make a deal with KoV (Now this is weird).
I actually found out who were the spies from Dogdrool himself but the suspects never gave their story. Dogdrool believed Elements was a spy but I don't think he was, atleast not intentional, but Elements is ruled out as a spy because he was kicked soon after for defending his friend's name. Dogdrool said it was Excalionar who spied on them and took the pictures and Excalionar never gave his side and said to me that it didn't involve Serendipity (SIN), even though we were dragged into this by KoV and Dog.
Choquell told me his side and despite what Dogdrool said, apparently in Choquell's story he claims Dog came to them when WaL was down to 7 players and it was time for Dog to take the remains. Choquell also claimed that he talked every tribe leader and word gets to KoV that WaL was gonna merge with Dog and then KoV tells Choquell what kind of tribe he is getting into and asked and got irrefutable evidence on Dog talking about outlaw tactics.
Now this is where it gets even weirder, only like two or three so far knows what outlaw tactics are and a whole crap ton does not and not even the vets ever heard of it so I kept asking if Dog ever used or talked about outlaw tactics and the most loyal of Dog either said no or never heard of the term, so therefore Choquell lied about it. Also Choquell's main goal was to wipe out Son of Clams (SoC) and guess what I found out what KoV has been doing, SoC wanted to compensate for their nukes on a player's villa, who was kicked from KoV so then everyone decided to take the non-tribe player's villas but then as soon we attack KoV took him back in, SoC were willing to put this attack behind them and cease all attacks as long the villa was turned over to them so that they can keep the peace. But then Solitude says to them "Keep the peace for what?" KoV was VP pushing and they didn't care who they hurt, even if it was their allies. SoC tried their best to stay professional and keep peace.
I then found out what Dog was talking about was a "what if KoV turned on them" since KoV had been doing some questionable things themselves. There was a time Dogdrool mentioning a test but this was when he was put in an unfair trial by Solitude. Now you're probably wondering "why it is unfair?" Well, Solitude didn't care and ignored to hear his side of the story and kept call Dog and cherry liars and traitors (Great investigating, Sherlock) I also have Solitude's trial chat with cherry and Dog and more. Apparently Dog never told any of the leaders what he had planned to root out a possible spy and when the spy was found it took him a day to explain why he said it.
I believe they were just talking about any possible chances and probably made a big mistake so I think there was no plan to root out a spy but I do think Dog test's players to see where they stand.
I have tried to talk with the KoV members and I have figured something out. Jt457 is KoV's Tribe Leader even has a title of it and Solitude Empire was a co-leader it seems but Jt never once tried to keep peace and lead his tribe, Solitude was the one making the decisions and the one leading the tribe while Jt just follows around, this is evident in the chats. So the true Tribe Leader is Solitude Empire not Jt457, he is just being used or something. I have tried to get KoV perspectives and only Choquell was the one who gave me his side, Solitude and Jt kept repeating they gave clear evidence that was from a random spy and would not give out their opinions and kept repeating themselves over and over that was not being asked for.
Then when Elements and Choquell gave their stories Solitude then ordered his men to no longer converse with me, also Solitude send me PM asking what was hidden and if I was complaining about the names. It was the truth that was being hidden, the real truth that is what I saw was being hidden and plus Solitude did a super crappy job at covering the names. He also would not expose the spy, which I found interesting and I asked myself "If he was truly honorable and respectful then why believe a random spy and protect him?" so naturally I kept asking some more from different players and some of them believed that it was planned and WaL and KOV were already talking with each from the get-go. It makes sense since KoV was quick bringing the enemy into their tribe and calling their allies "traitors".
Cherry and SIN, and anyone who else didn't know we the innocents and victims of this and Dog and KoV in their own right were guilty of what they have done. But Dog tried to keep peace, tried to give his story to KoV when KoV asked for it, and tried defend cherry and her tribe when we were accused of nothing. KoV has been making things only worse, not even listening to others stories when clearly KoV asked for it and have been giving attitude to everybody around them. But I think that, maybe, KoV is being manipulated by WaL since Choquell also seemed quickly got the Warchief title but from looking at all of the chats it is starting to seem KoV had some traitors of their own and the goals that was once with WaL is now KoV goals, and I don't believe in coincidences.
This is what I have found in a nutshell so to speak and I have all of the chats even the infamous one and I will post the the infamous chat the full chat here. If anyone wants to see the other chats then just let me know.
The true enemy of this entire situation is WaL and they have successfully infiltrated KoV and now is turning KoV into the new WaL, I will warn those who have been manipulated by WaL that WaL is turning the KoV tribe into the new WaL if it wasn't true then why did Choquell got mad that his former tribe will be wiped out when he and a few others were joining a new tribe? Think about it and then decide, WaL is the enemy not KoV, not SIN, not SoC, not even Dog. It's WaL. Please atleast considered all what has happened, remember Choquell's and WaL goals were to wipe out SoC let that sink in and he also said he wanted to attack KoV to Dogdrool.
First, let's take a look at the screenshots (The Spy's Screenshots) notice on the far-right side the scroll bar isn't all the way down, this is the beginning of the chat and not all of it and I have the entire chat thanks to helpful member (who I won't name here to protect him) and from reading from it it implies that the spy was still in the chat until he got found out and then he left. So the spy had a chance to get the most out of the chat but he didn't, these pics were doctored and then it was shown anonymously to Solitude. Now the one question that bugs me is that when Solitude saw these pics "Did he not questioned the spy?" "Did he not investigate it calmly and try to get an answer like I have?" It is unknown to me but one thing is for sure he was very quick about being hostile to everyone and stills does to this day. I have also looked at the members list and saw two whose times were close to that of the spy's. One is Nicolson but Solitude has said the member had no picture so this rules him out. The second one is AshenShugar now his time really correlates with the time this took place, the last time they were seen online was May 1st, Saturday
Now, I was doing my very best to get everyone's point of view of the situation and I was being respectful and professional about it. Like I have said not all wanted to share their story so many questions are still working theories but I did get a lot, which is better than nothing. Before I did anything I told my tribe's council what I was gonna do and then I went to ask Dogdrool's story first since Solitude was steaming at the moment.
Dogdrool claimed to be an ex-cop and knew how to get the truth out of a suspect. He says three weeks ago WaL approached Dog to join their tribe but Dogdrool didn't trust them (after all they were enemies) and he would always reject them but WaL was desperate. Also KoV apparently gave them their blessings to take them in (which I found weird) but Dogdrool still said no. A few days ago Choquell came to Dogdrool tp make a proposal but Dog said he went into cop mode and gained Choquell's trust and apparently he slipped up. Choquell said to Dogdrool when he joins Dog Soldiers he wanted to attack KoV, Dogdrool said this will never happen because KoV was very loyal and honorable to Dog Soldiers. Then Dogdrool wanted to put him to the test and told Choquell when he joins Dog Soldiers he will take out the remaining WaL members (and I saw nothing wrong there WaL were enemies of the entire world basically) but Choquell got mad and went to make a deal with KoV (Now this is weird).
I actually found out who were the spies from Dogdrool himself but the suspects never gave their story. Dogdrool believed Elements was a spy but I don't think he was, atleast not intentional, but Elements is ruled out as a spy because he was kicked soon after for defending his friend's name. Dogdrool said it was Excalionar who spied on them and took the pictures and Excalionar never gave his side and said to me that it didn't involve Serendipity (SIN), even though we were dragged into this by KoV and Dog.
Choquell told me his side and despite what Dogdrool said, apparently in Choquell's story he claims Dog came to them when WaL was down to 7 players and it was time for Dog to take the remains. Choquell also claimed that he talked every tribe leader and word gets to KoV that WaL was gonna merge with Dog and then KoV tells Choquell what kind of tribe he is getting into and asked and got irrefutable evidence on Dog talking about outlaw tactics.
Now this is where it gets even weirder, only like two or three so far knows what outlaw tactics are and a whole crap ton does not and not even the vets ever heard of it so I kept asking if Dog ever used or talked about outlaw tactics and the most loyal of Dog either said no or never heard of the term, so therefore Choquell lied about it. Also Choquell's main goal was to wipe out Son of Clams (SoC) and guess what I found out what KoV has been doing, SoC wanted to compensate for their nukes on a player's villa, who was kicked from KoV so then everyone decided to take the non-tribe player's villas but then as soon we attack KoV took him back in, SoC were willing to put this attack behind them and cease all attacks as long the villa was turned over to them so that they can keep the peace. But then Solitude says to them "Keep the peace for what?" KoV was VP pushing and they didn't care who they hurt, even if it was their allies. SoC tried their best to stay professional and keep peace.
I then found out what Dog was talking about was a "what if KoV turned on them" since KoV had been doing some questionable things themselves. There was a time Dogdrool mentioning a test but this was when he was put in an unfair trial by Solitude. Now you're probably wondering "why it is unfair?" Well, Solitude didn't care and ignored to hear his side of the story and kept call Dog and cherry liars and traitors (Great investigating, Sherlock) I also have Solitude's trial chat with cherry and Dog and more. Apparently Dog never told any of the leaders what he had planned to root out a possible spy and when the spy was found it took him a day to explain why he said it.
I believe they were just talking about any possible chances and probably made a big mistake so I think there was no plan to root out a spy but I do think Dog test's players to see where they stand.
I have tried to talk with the KoV members and I have figured something out. Jt457 is KoV's Tribe Leader even has a title of it and Solitude Empire was a co-leader it seems but Jt never once tried to keep peace and lead his tribe, Solitude was the one making the decisions and the one leading the tribe while Jt just follows around, this is evident in the chats. So the true Tribe Leader is Solitude Empire not Jt457, he is just being used or something. I have tried to get KoV perspectives and only Choquell was the one who gave me his side, Solitude and Jt kept repeating they gave clear evidence that was from a random spy and would not give out their opinions and kept repeating themselves over and over that was not being asked for.
Then when Elements and Choquell gave their stories Solitude then ordered his men to no longer converse with me, also Solitude send me PM asking what was hidden and if I was complaining about the names. It was the truth that was being hidden, the real truth that is what I saw was being hidden and plus Solitude did a super crappy job at covering the names. He also would not expose the spy, which I found interesting and I asked myself "If he was truly honorable and respectful then why believe a random spy and protect him?" so naturally I kept asking some more from different players and some of them believed that it was planned and WaL and KOV were already talking with each from the get-go. It makes sense since KoV was quick bringing the enemy into their tribe and calling their allies "traitors".
Cherry and SIN, and anyone who else didn't know we the innocents and victims of this and Dog and KoV in their own right were guilty of what they have done. But Dog tried to keep peace, tried to give his story to KoV when KoV asked for it, and tried defend cherry and her tribe when we were accused of nothing. KoV has been making things only worse, not even listening to others stories when clearly KoV asked for it and have been giving attitude to everybody around them. But I think that, maybe, KoV is being manipulated by WaL since Choquell also seemed quickly got the Warchief title but from looking at all of the chats it is starting to seem KoV had some traitors of their own and the goals that was once with WaL is now KoV goals, and I don't believe in coincidences.
This is what I have found in a nutshell so to speak and I have all of the chats even the infamous one and I will post the the infamous chat the full chat here. If anyone wants to see the other chats then just let me know.
The true enemy of this entire situation is WaL and they have successfully infiltrated KoV and now is turning KoV into the new WaL, I will warn those who have been manipulated by WaL that WaL is turning the KoV tribe into the new WaL if it wasn't true then why did Choquell got mad that his former tribe will be wiped out when he and a few others were joining a new tribe? Think about it and then decide, WaL is the enemy not KoV, not SIN, not SoC, not even Dog. It's WaL. Please atleast considered all what has happened, remember Choquell's and WaL goals were to wipe out SoC let that sink in and he also said he wanted to attack KoV to Dogdrool.
